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So how strong are base Goku and Vegeta now?
Topic Started: Dec 15 2015, 11:39 AM (3,896 Views)
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Dougla$
Dec 17 2015, 11:25 PM
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Dec 17 2015, 12:07 AM
Tin Man
Dec 15 2015, 11:44 AM
Probably honestly, because of ssjg magic and Whis training. Without that they're weaker than fourth form Freeza.
I don't think this was ever confirmed explicitly. If you're referring to Beerus saying "I don't think you could have defeated Freeza like this", then it's a line open to interpretation.
I figured the writers thought we wouldn't remember way back when. After all that training on Planet Yardrat, the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and in Other World, just in his base form he should easily be able to annihilate Frieza at the level he was on Namek.
Well base Goku I'm sure can power up without going ssj. Not to mention all the goading Beerus did to get Goku to go all out in god mode... This leads me to believe he was just egging Goku on. I think base Goku, on King Kai's planet, would be much stronger than Frieza.

Currently I think their base forms are much stronger than anyone we saw in Z. By a wide margin.
"I hit the booth and I just went super saiyan!" - Big Sean
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50x weaker than SSGSS Goku and Vegeta?
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Mike
Dec 18 2015, 03:26 AM
50x weaker than SSGSS Goku and Vegeta?
No way. Goku went from ssg to base to ss
And from ssg to as to base in super without noticing
Base goku also landed good hits on beerus and stopped the sphere of destruction.
Also he took a blast from ssb vegeta and lived
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I'd say they are above Super 17 (post 10x kamehameha).
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